FUNDING A WAR INVARIABLY BRINGS THE WARLIKE NATION DOWN
Remember in 1989 how Russia went down the tubes? Ya know what sunk the Ruskis, doncha: the war to run RUSSIAN OIL through conduit pipe in AFGHANISTAN then use AFGHANISTAN as a military base to invade or snakecharm Pakistan next door so they could have full use of a warm water port (Karachi) that connected with shipping routes over the Atlantic.
EVERYTHING FROZEN, NO DAMN SOUTHERN PORTS. LET's BLAST THRU
AFGHANISTAN THEN USE IT AS A BASE TO MAKE WAR ON IRAN AND
THEN PAKISTAN and WE HAVE WARM WATER PORTS!!! WHOPEEEEE!
Commies SPENT BILLIONS, lost a huge amount of soldiers as these mountain guerillas were almost as cagy as the Vietnamese who had tunnels underground to befuddle GI's. Afghanistan's mountain caves foiled the Russian military to the point that the Kremlin lost the war (*and what was left of the affection of their own people.) KABUL was their Vietnam. Arabs utterly sunk the RUSKI, caused the USSR to go broke and to starve its people back home and it caused the total break up of the USSR. Though the Labor Unions in Poland thumbing their nose at them didn't help. That was like being 'pantsed' in the school bathroom and utterly shamed. And then, Russia's exhausting effort to dynamite OUT a pathway to warm water ports south signalled the end of the cold war between USA/USSR..
RUSSIAN EXPANSIONISM sunk them. Russia is one of the richest oil countries in the world and they wanted their oil to move across the world from their SOUTH WEST where the oil fields are. And they wanted to lay OIL CONDUIT PIPE safely across Afghanistan and Pakistan to the PORT OF KARACHI, PAKISTAN and have their oil conduit be safe.
KARACHI MON AMOUR!It's a well known fact, their right wing top politico Zhurinovsky wanted PAKISTAN, craved it as the port of KARACHI was the dimple on her southern bosom. Creeping Commies planned for their hand to creep in a South Western direction til she had it.
RUSSIA should have just paid to rent space in Iranian harbors and transhipped across the mountains between Caspian and Black Sea or maybe into TURKEY something like that. Woulda been cheaper. They lost themselves the toss though Reagan gladly took credit for what just was an accident of fate. The Gods punishing Ruski Hubris.
Now sidebar: OSAMA BIN LADEN was fighting for the USA in that war, was super trained and funded, too. Suddenly he had all the guns, all the soldiers, all the training, a lot of cash support from the USA (which HO CHI MINH had in WWII when we used him against JAPAN, creating a deadly warlord.)
Well guess what? The Taliban or Al Qaida, --began on that same day the RUSKI vs AFGHANI WAR ENDED. I got that sentence from some kids online. I was googling terms like 'warm water ports' and stumbled on a webchat, American kids talking back and forth among themselves. May I cut you in on it? They're pretty smart.
"The Taliban was America's friend and mercenary, we called them the Mujahideen. OUR MUJAHIDEEN. They were led by Osama. He worked for us. This kind of change partners and dance happens all the time. Saddam Hussein was also our little pet tyrant pal once upon a happier time... (Ask yourself WHY when he was born into a NAZI RUN ISLAMIC FASCIST FAMILY, Yeah, really and truly, created by a renegade HITERLITE NAZI who hit all the Arab countries post WWII and organized their thinking.)
The lesson for US STRATEGIST, = Look at the big picture, PICK your mercenaries BETTER. AVOID FASCISTS and/OR WARLORDS. If you need to use them, kill them and their squadrons shortly afterwards or MOVE THEM TO THE CONTINENTAL USA and give them a lifetime stipend, to fatten them up so they don't turn their wars on folks at home, or just leave them alone in the first place because TRAINED KILLERS will ALWAYS come back to bite us in the END! .Reagan out smarted the USSR..No he didn't Reagan was a putz.a) he RAISED taxes b) he granted AMNESTY to EVERY illegal alien in America c) he CUT & RAN after the Beirut bombing/terrorist attack ? And he created the Taliban, so how was that a good thing ? Show me another. Wasn't the USSR going broke fighting in Afghanistan REALLY the end of the cold war ?
and as a footnote in world histoy...the cold war ended and the taliban began almost on the same day when the taliban was America's friend we called them the mujahideen & BTW saddam was our pal too, once upon a time...lesson = kill them all or leave them alone because they will ALWAYS come back to bite us in the ass. Yes to some extent. The USA was supplying the Taliban with the anti-aircraft Stinger missiles that gave the Russians fits. They just could not afford to keep enough men and supplies there to make a difference ,so they cut their losses and split. The irony is that the US is doing exactly the same thing in the Middle East that the Soviets did. We are committed to a war that is making us bankrupt. Soon we'll be just like the Russians with a tiny rich class and slaves. The USSR was the political, economic and strategic think-tank in many of the games that have been played out over the years. Perhaps instead of thinking of it as an economic failure, consider it more to be a change in stance - by wiping their hands of political responsibility to the people, they would be free to explore other avenues of power. So the cold war spy game was put into the depths of secrecy. Iit was Reagan giving money and weapons to osama bin laden that did that ., so hurray., Reagan and osama won the cold war., Osama did all the work though.the scuffle the USSR had in Afghanistan cost pennies compared to what they were paying to launch an offensive against America. GOD BLESS RONALD REAGAN.
REAGAN? HUH? HEY KID, you cannot rewrite history on this site! The USSR went broke because it was never a viable form of government. Lech Walesa of Poland, Pope John Paul II, and Ronald Reagan's SDI initiative all helped to put the final squeeze on a failed society.
The USSR failed in Afghanistan for several reasons. The US supplied the Mujaheddin with anti aircraft missiles which were deadly, the Soviets used Middle Ages tactics to fight the war. The military had no stomach for the war. Many muslim soldiers defected.
In part, but actually the USSR’s biggest problem is Reagan beat them to death with our wallets.
In addition to giving the Afghan’s weapons, his military build-up sparked the USSR to attempt to match us. They “died” trying, so to speak.
It really was genius in its most simple form. No one was going to complain about a conventional force build-up and at the same time he called for a reduction of nukes. Nukes were the only means the USSR had to fight us on even field. So they tried to keep up with the Jones’ toys and found that communism couldn’t produce they where-with-all.
The cold war ended because of Reagan's threat to establish the Star Wars program. Gorbachov understood that he couldn't hold the threat of nuclear war over our heads any longer. Soviet unrest was a secondary reason, combined with the unrest in the Warsaw Pact nations, all of which have become democratic in the last 20 years. Afghanistan weakened Russia's military, but it didn't really contribute to the downfall of the entire soviet system to any significant degree. As much as some people hate to admit it, Reagan brought about the end of the cold war.
It contributed, but the more salient point was simply the rottenness of the Soviet economy. Unless you have an economy that is based on sound principles, you won't be able to compete with one that is, and the Communist ignoring of the value-creating possibilities of free trade was lethal.
The Taliban came into power well after the Reagan administration. The U.S.S.R. left because our C.I.A. was funneling in "stinger missiles" to the Afghan freedom fighters who are aligned with the same regime in power today. The U.S.S.R. also was being beaten at every turn in Afghanistan and had a policy there of wiping out whole villages at a time. They knew they could not win. They left with their tail between their legs...We took Afghanistan in 6 months with precision bombing and Special Forces aligned with the Northern Alliance and a sustained campaign of assisting the Afghan people in all phases.
AIN'T THAT GREAT? Ordinary kids talking politics online! They're smart. You can rewrite them and get a decent article and what's more, they VOTE. But they still can't change anything even with a vote. What are they going to do? They know it all & can do it none!
<--------ACTIVISM is HOW kids can Easily FIX things... NOISY ACTIVISM. And if you want a grandkid alive a few years from now, make noise. The Taliban & Osama beat two countries into a pulp, economically, morally and the American oilmen who own our Gov are still going to go after the OIL WELLS. Count on it. When the Muslims have beat US/UK/ Russia into absolute rigor mortis, they will have inherited the oil wells that rightfully are theirs. Makes you wanna get a hybrid, don't it.
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